Is NRA Training Any Good? – Episode 77

Topics in this episode: 

  • If you own a gun for self-defense, training is essential.  The question is, where to get it?  I’ve attended a lot of training.  One suggestion that I would make is that you take the NRA Personal Protection series of courses.  They include NRA Personal Protection Inside the Home and NRA Personal Protection Outside The Home for concealed carry.  Both are excellent.  I took mine at AllSafe Defense with T.J. Johnston. 

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Is NRA Training Any Good? Episode 77

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Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition. It’s time for the gun guide TV podcast. This is Joel Singer I’m the Gun Guy Thank you very much for all of your support of gun guide, TV and everything you do to support this podcast and the video program that we provide on Youtube and other places bit shoot and Kim Yo and and facebook, and like that. I’m grateful for everything you do because if it wasn’t for you, this program would come to a screeching halt. Halt, but it isn’t because you listen and you watch and you support, so thank you very very much now. What I’M I? Talk with you about today or a couple of things again this podcast each time is one hour long. The first half hour of the PODCAST is free. That’s syndicated on your favorite podcast player, and you’ll also find a video version of it posted on. Youtube and. And the video places that we post videos. Then the second part of the podcast is on patron only, and that’s how we generate support. The keep the podcast. Going is by folks who want to listen to the podcast i. want to hear the whole thing and show they help us out a little bit on Patriot, other other things we do on Patriot’s to. There’s a video podcast. I do. Do twice a month for Patriot patrons only I also do some behind the scenes videos right now I’m checking out emergency food and the Patriots folks are watching me suffer through eating it, and then I also do some other things on patriotic for my Patriot on patrons, people that are helping us out financially to be able to keep this thing running, so you might check us out if If you’d like for that extra content on Patriot on. Because you’ll find content there. You won’t find anywhere else and what I’m GonNa talk about today or a couple of things one is if you have a firearm either for home, defence or for self defense, and you’re going to carry it. Maybe you’re in a state where you can carry legally whether that’s concealed or exposed, then g you WANNA. WanNa get some training with a firearm or even if you have a firearm for home defense, and maybe you’re in a state where you can’t take it outside the House and carry it with you. It’s good to have training on how to defend yourself at home, and then in the second part of the podcast we’ll talk about. I believe you should not listen to the mainstream media because. Because the mainstream media is a Marxist group and they have their own agenda. which I believe is false, and I’m gonNA tell you exactly why we’ll talk about that. In the second part of the PODCAST, but first. Let’s talk about the training component. If you listen to podcasts at all, you probably know that. I grew up in the construction trades my step. Dad was a masonry contractor my. My mother and father unfortunately got divorced when I was a very young child. I think it was five or six years old and I would spend part of the year with my dad, who was a deputy sheriff and part of the year with my mom mother, then married a gentleman who was a masonry contractor was a Korean I’ll actually both of them were Korean War Vet era veterans. A. My dad was in the airforce and my Stepdad was in the army, but any case my Stepdad was a masonry, contractor, brick, block and cement and stone. Slabs and that kind of stuff, and that’s what he did for a living so I came up in that trade as a boy, and that’s the trade I learned, and that’s what I started doing. Right out of high school was working in the masonry trade, so I’ve been around tradesmen and construction sites and that kind of stuff a lot of my life. I have two brothers, one younger and one older. Who did that? That for the rest of their lives, and until they retired and did very well, so it’s a really good trade. I’m a big proponent of the trades in general. My son for quite some time was an electrician. Although he’s now now wanting to do something else he’s wanted to be. A chef is entire life and so he’s going to go back to school and learn to be a chef and probably leave the. The electrical trade, which is not a disappointment to me. I want him to do what what is good for him, but that’s a new adventure in his life along the way, though and the reason why bring it up as I’ve used a lot of power tools and I can tell you that over the years in the trade I think the the held power tools or the small power tools that are the. The most dangerous that I’ve seen are skill saws, and certainly chainsaws, and among the smaller tools, and anybody uses particularly on a construction site whether they’re damning something which you’d use a chainsaw for in some instances, or you’re building something you might use a table saw for I’ve seen more fingers missing as a result of table SAWS and I’ve heard about or been told about more leg injuries as a result of chainsaws. Now. Why do I bring this up while if you have a tool that is a positive tool that you can do great things with, but that tool is inherently dangerous, if not used properly then getting some training on how to use the tool is a very good thing and using the various and sundry types of protective equipment that you might use when using the tool is also good, so for example with a chainsaw you wanNA.

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Always use chainsaw chaps. I’ve seen guys don’t wear them, but I gotta tell you mostly injuries. You’re going to see from. Chainsaws are leg injuries because? Because when that chain boxer that saw bucks back, sometimes it ends up on your leg and the chainsaw chaps will reduce the chance of injury or reduce the severity of it. I’ve seen guys use sticks to push that piece of went through that last few inches of that table saw precisely because they don’t want to be missing fingers at the end of the day, and I’ve met a lot of guys who are missing fingers from one hand or another, because they took them all off at once on a table saw same thing with band saws and that kind of stuff. Well when you have a firearm, a firearm is a very dangerous tool. It can be a safe tool and it can be used safely so that you can defend yourself without injuring yourself or someone else whom you don’t wished ginger, however, the more training you have I believe the better now. I’ve been teaching shooting for many many many years I think. Oh, I don’t know five years or six years or seven years ago. My then business partner WHO’s since left the company sat down and calculated how many people I had taught shooting, and he came up with the number that I was a number. That kind of astounded me actually told me one day that he figured out that I had personally taught seven thousand people how to shoot at that time. Time and that’s several years ago now just for the record that’s not individually teaching each student that’s teaching clashes, and when you total up the number of people in each class and add up all the classes. That’s how he came up with that number and I did do quite a bit of personal one on one individual teaching, but there’s no way to ever get the seven thousand doing that. But the point is I’ve taught thousands of people how to shoot and that seven thousand figure is probably double or triple that now because many years have gone by. When I’ve seen during that time, is that folks really do benefit from some great training with their handgun in particular, but whether it’s handgun shotgun rifle, they benefit from all of those things now I’ve been a law enforcement instructor for a long time and I’ve taught some police officers and a lot of security officers, and I’ve taught courses on handgun. Because that’s what they carry all day, sidearm, patrol, shotgun patrol rifle, and I am a certified law enforcement instructor, and that’s what I teach. So for many years, I’ve taught those things. And what I’ve learned is that the benefit of training cannot be overstated all right now. That I’ve made that argument. Let me tell you about a great class that you can take quite easily, which will be phenomenal and help you in the in the application of your firearm as a home defence or self defense tool and I should have said the safe application of your firearm as a tool for home, defence or self defense whether you’re carrying it or you just have it for home defence. The National Rifle Association. No matter what heartburn you may have with them at the moment because of lane here whatever it has done a tremendous job over the over the many many decades well one hundred years I mean or more. In training people. That’s really I. Think what they started doing most effectively. They do a lot of things very effectively, but more than any other gun group. The NRA does a better job at training than just about anybody else. At one. Colonel Jeff Cooper was on the NRA show was a gentleman named. TJ Johnston and they knew each other. Colonel Cooper. Passed away many years ago. He was quite old. And if you don’t know who Colonel Jeff, Cooper was he was a Marine Corps colonel. He was the founder of gunsight ranch, which you probably heard of, and he is arguably the father of modern pistol craft. If you go to gunsight front sight, you go to any major school to learn how to fight with a handgun and you’re going to learn techniques that were created by Jeff Cooper. There’s a lot of them. One that might come to mind would be flash sight picture. That was something developed by Colonel Jeff. Cooper If you ever get to read his books. You’ll learn a lot because he was a phenomenal pistol shot, but he was also quite the guy when it came to coming up with ways to use that gun effectively to fight for your life. Well, the NRA wanted to have some courses that they could teach people for defending themselves at home, and for defending themselves on the street. One of those courses has called personal protection outside the home, and that course was developed by Jeff Cooper and in part TJ Johnston. Well Jeff is dead, but teach is not. He’s still teaching. He’s in Orange California. And he owns a company called all safe defense now I’ve known TJ for a long long time.

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He is easily one of the best instructors I have ever had. The privilege to know and I thoroughly enjoy taking classes with him. Do you need to take that class from TJ? No, but if you’re orange, I suggest that you do or if you’re anywhere in southern California I would. Would suggest you go take classes from him. The reason why it’s fresh in my mind is because I just took the NRA personal protection outside the home course from Tj and I’m GonNa tell you more about that. In just a moment one way you can help support gun guide. TV is by using our Amazon affiliate link now. The cool thing about that is it provides support for Gun Guy TV, but it doesn’t cost you a thing in fact you get to. To do everything you would normally do on Amazon without spending one time in order to help us, and yet we get money anyway. It’s just a marketing fee that we get from Amazon if you use our link to shop, and it really doesn’t matter what you buy whether it’s gun, stuff or anything else now. Here’s how you can do it. You can go to our website at gun guide, DOT TV and up along the top of the website. There’s a banner. Banner their little rectangular banner for Amazon. If you click on that banner, it will take you to the Amazon website using our Amazon affiliate link and once you’re looking at the Amazon website from that link. All you have to do is bookmark that Amazon page and every time you go back to Amazon. If you’ll use that bookmark and start your shopping there than we will benefit gun guy TV regardless of what you buy, and it doesn’t cost you one red cent. That’s one great way to help out Gun Guy TV by shopping Amazon using our Amazon link. The opinions expressed by the. Always right unless they’re all. Now. Let’s get back to what I was talking about. which was training for tools, which can sometimes be dangerous so as I said you know if you’re gonNA, use a chainsaw. Get some training on how to use it whether that’s simply reading. The instructions are talking to somebody that knows what they’re talking about, and the same thing would be true with any other kind of power tool well, that’s certainly the case when it comes to handguns. Handguns, rifles, shotguns, or anything else you might employ with which to defend yourself, but certainly some of the most dangerous things that we can use to defend ourselves would be firearms. Obviously, a stick is not as dangerous. A pepper spray is not as dangerous a knife while it is incredibly dangerous is less prone to serious accidents. You’re not going to accidentally kill someone across the street will by using a knife inside your home and so those. Those those things are very dangerous in some respects, but not quite as dangerous as a firearm so firearms or something we want to have more training with rather than less and the other thing. I should probably point out, too. Is that training is something that should be on going? You don’t take one class and that’s IT and okay I’m trained for life because shooting is a perishable skill and oftentimes the kinds of shooting that you would. Would have to do to defend yourself. You’re only going to get to practice in a class because that’s the only place you’re gonNA. Find a range situation where you can actually do the shooting and moving and pyan corners and shooting around barriers and working from the whole sure, and the kinds of things that you’re going to need to be able to do well and practice in order to fight for your life, so taking classes ongoingly. ongoingly as a very positive thing, and in fact, let me tell you why I was there. And perhaps this will help illustrate that a little bit. The reason I was taking the course. TJ Is because as a licensed firearms instructor. I have a number of licenses for example. I’m a certified instructor with California. Department of Justice approved instructor with the San Diego. County Sheriff’s Department I’m a certified law enforcement instructor with the National Rifle Association law. Law. Enforcement Activities Division. I’m a licensed instructor with the California Bureau of Security and investigative services and I could keep going on. In fact, there’s probably five other licenses I have for example. I’m a certified shotgun coach for the Shotgun Sports, and that includes skeet, sporting clays bunker, and so on, and so there’s lots of different things that I’m certified or licensed to teach which require me to do continuing education on a regular basis just as As my wife has a speech and language. Pathologist has certain continuing education requirements for licensing and certifications, but she has to do every year. I have certain hours of training. I have to do in each one of those disciplines every year in order to maintain my licensing and certifications and every industries like that it doesn’t matter what you do. Really close friend of mine is name is John. He’s a a computer whiz, but that guy.

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Guy Has to do continuing education in order to be the The genius he is where computer systems are concerned. He’s the director of it at the Metro Transit. System here in San Diego so he’s at a very high level in this, and he has to continually stay abreast of what’s new with regard to information technology, so it really doesn’t matter what you do for a living. You have continuing education that you have to do. Well along the way I’ve got to be a little creative. As to the courses, I have to take I’m not taking the same snake and courses over and over again otherwise gets a little boring after a while now I do go to front sight periodically probably once a year or twice a year I’ll get out there and I take other courses with other places, and every time I get a chance I will go take a course at a different place because I. Get a different view of the particular discipline I’m working on. We’ll just so happens that I have about eight hours I think I have to look now. But I think I have eight hours I need to complete this year that I haven’t done yet for handgun, and so I was looking for an eight hour course in order to do that and I couldn’t figure out where I wanted to go. I was thinking about going back a frontside, or maybe go into gun side, or I was looking at two or Or three different options, but time and space and place and travel became an issue I started looking at the courses I had taken with Tj, and it suddenly dawned on me I had never taken the personal protection outside the home course with him and I had never gotten the personal protection outside the home instructor certification with the National Rifle Association I thought. Thought I had, but you know I’ve got many. I didn’t I didn’t notice that I didn’t have that one so I contacted TJ. He had a class and I went now in order to get the instructor certification. I have to not only take the course itself, but then after I’ve taken that course, and only after. I’ve taken that course I. Get to go. Go back and then take the instructor course on how to teach it so this past weekend I went up and saw TJ in orange, and I took the personal protection outside the home. Course I had already taken the personal protection inside the home course years ago, and I had gotten the certification to teach that course with the National Rifle Association years ago. I cannot overstate the quality of those courses. They are out standing the inside. The home course addresses all of the issues that you’re gonNA face defending yourself inside your home in the case of a a burglary or in the case of a home, invasion or something along those lines, and you need to defend yourself in your home. This course is going to prepare you for that better than most courses I’ve ever seen or ever taken, and as as you can tell. I take a lot of classes because I’m required to I would like to anyway, but being required to SORTA twists my arm and says okay Joel. You have to go take a shooting class. Twist my arm. As one of those right, but that is an outstanding course, the personal protection inside the home course. No, I’m not getting paid a dime from the National Rifle Association to tell you this I’m referring you to these courses, because there are a lot of shooters out there who have guns who have never had formal training, and there’s a lot of folks who just bought a gun because they’re concerned about covid, nineteen and the civil unrest in the black lives, matter and a- and all this other crazy stuff. That’s what you’re seeing in the news. All the time and show gun sales have gone through the roof. Well, not everybody can peel away a week and go to frontside. frontside or a week or go to gun, side or a week and go to thunder, ranch, or a week, and go to the six hour, Academy, or a week, and go to academy, or whatever or sometimes two weeks, and not. Everybody’s got twenty five hundred bucks for three thousand dollars to go do that because those courses can be very expensive and there’s a reason they’re very expensive because they’re very very good, and it doesn’t matter. Which of those schools I mentioned that you go to their all phenomenal. They’re all phenomenal. I’m GONNA say the third time they’re all phenomenal. If you ever get a chance to go to any of those schools. I strongly suggest that you do. Do, so you will walk away stunned at how much you will learn. And how fantastic courses are at those places so I? Do urge you to go there and I’m not trying to talk out of it. I go to those places or places like that as often as I’m able to go and I encourage police officers to do it. I encouraged civilians to do it and I encourage military members to do it. One of the best courses I think I’ve ever taken is the NRA law enforcement instructor core series now? You can’t take that unless you have a law enforcement, history or you’re in the law enforcement training business. You have certain requirements. You have to meet in order. Order to be able to get into those law enforcement instructor courses, but if you’re a law enforcement officer, and you’re listening to me right now. I strongly suggest you get in there and take those courses because they are phenomenal as well, but let’s get back to personal protection courses inside and outside the home. The first one you WanNa take is personal protection inside the home, which I told you briefly was focused entirely on the trouble.

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You will face inside your home. Fighting for your life, it is an outstanding course series, and it is well. We’re taking I believe it is a two day courses well. There are available on the weekends and the Nice thing about these courses. Let’s say you can’t get to Orange, California to take TJ Johnston which if you’re in southern California or anywhere near there? I suggest you take that course with Tj, you will not find. It taught better anywhere on the planet, however if you can’t that. The Nice thing is it’s an NRA? Course you’RE GONNA. Find our instructors around the country who are trained very very well and certified to teach that course, many of whom, by the way are trained and certified by Tj. Johnston because he’s NRA. Training counselors one of the things that he does so you’ll be able to take that course and learn a ton. You’ll also be able to take from. From, probably from that same instructor, the NRA personal protection outside the home course which I’m GonNa. Give you some detail on in just a moment. I mentioned the fact. That I’m a firearms instructor and that I have a company that teaches those things now predominantly what we do is we train security officers in the State of California for their licensing, because like most places they have to be. Be licensed to work, so they have initial licensing. They have to have and then as I mentioned every industry, has it? They have continuing education. They have to complete every year and everything. They do every new thing. They wished to have or carry, or whatever requires additional training, and that’s what we do at practical defense system, so if you’re looking for a job, maybe a luxury job because covert. Covert and you’ve got to find something to do. Remember that security is part of public safety, and it’s considered essential, so if you’re in California and you’d like to get started in the security business. CHECK US OUT AT PD S. CLASSES DOT com. That’s practical defense systems at PD s classes, dot, com, or are. You can just google it saving the Second Amendment one episode at a time. This is the Gun Guy TV pot. The personal protection outside the home course, which is what I’m going to detail for you now is an advanced shooting course. Make no mistake about it. You have to have some advanced skills in order to get through that course and do so well now the first day obviously each day has some classroom time, and that’s very important, because that’s the opportunity not only for you to learn the theoretical things that you need to have in mind, but also for the attorney to come to class to you about the legal aspects and pitfalls of defending yourself while the gun. However the majority of the class on both days is actually shooting. The first day is I would say they call it actually the basic day I’m not so sure there’s anything basic about it, but it’s not nearly as Adrenalin filled or advanced as the second day and what I’m telling you this, I don’t want to frighten you away from the class. It’s doable and you can do it. I know with TJ one of the things he does is he actually has a pre class class, so if you feel that, you’re not ready in your skill level to take this course, you can come take his pre class class and he’s going to. To get you up to speed so that you can get through this course and do it very very well now from what I could understand. Most people who were in the course. That I was in had taken the pre class class I hadn’t done that. I guess I’m a prideful dog, and I didn’t think I. needed it. And as it turns out, I don’t nevertheless some of them apparently dead, so they went and took the pre class class, and they all did very very well now some did better than others, but they all got through the class very well, and they all learned a ton. There was a doctor and his wife. These folks had not were not experienced. Gun people none in fact, very few of the people. In the course. We’re actually gun people. There were a few, but most of them were just honest. law-abiding citizens who do different things for a living who are now concerned about their safety in some of whom had never purchased a gun until recently when they discovered that perhaps having one would be a really. Really. Good idea so there were a lot of the new gun owners that we would see through this whole corona virus. Thing that we hear about all the time, but they were taking this course, so these were not people in many cases who had years and years and years and years of experience they came and took this course, and they did brilliantly with it, so I was very impressed by. By that TJ. A great teacher but I suspect that there are other teachers who do the same thing who have a pre class class that will help you get up to speed for the course. Don’t be intimidated by the fact that the course is challenging, and it is an advanced course. You’RE GONNA. Be Drawing from the whole show with live ammunition. You’re going to be shooting under pressure the first. First Day was not as pressure-filled. You were doing quite a bit of drawing from the whole drawing from concealment learning positive draw stroke so that you don’t put your finger on the trigger until the sites.

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You’re on target so that you don’t have your finger on the trigger when you re whole sharing your gun, you’re learning how to clear your garment in order to draw your firearm from concealment those. Those are all basic things that need to be learned before you can speed up and you get a little bit in the first day of movement, and when I say movement, you’ve got a little bit of shooting and moving or moving and shooting, you get a little bit of learning to work with cover in the first day, but you spend a lot of time pressure on the trigger and learning. Learning that draw stroke learning to clear the garment and be able to apply some pressure associated with that on that first day. The second day is pretty much all movement. You’re learning to shoot while moving forward. Shoot while moving backward shoot while moving to cover moving to cover and shooting shooting from covers standing shooting from cover kneeling shooting from cover prone. These are all things you’re learning in the second. Second Day of that course you’re learning to shoot from retention, which means you’re drawing from the holster, but you’re not pushing it out in front of you and a standard firing stance instead that gun is tucked in real close to you because that’s where you’re going to have to shoot your attackers in your face. You don’t want him to grab the gun from you, so you’re learning to shoot from. From retention, and once you have that skill down now. The target is coming at you as fast as possible, and you start off at about twenty one feet, having to draw and fire before the targets to you, and then you move closer and closer and closer and closer and closer until you just don’t have enough time to do it anymore. And what each individual student learns is at what. What distance do they not have enough time to draw that firearm? Step out of the way and get one two, three, four or five shots, however, many they get on target from retention that was very useful skill, and it’s a kind of high pressure skill, because you have something coming direct atchoo very very quickly, so it puts you in a as close a position as you could be in to. To real life of having somebody charge you come at you. You’re learning to operate in a three hundred sixty degree environment, because if you’re defending yourself, we don’t operate in a two dimensional environment. We don’t operate where we only look one direction. We have to look for threats everywhere, and we have to learn how to turn and address them whether that threat is to our right to our left behind. Behind US or in front of us and that’s something that you learn in that class. It is a phenomenal class. It really is prepared to do a lot of shooting and prepare to burn through a lot of Emo, but when you walk out of that class, a couple of things are going to happen one. You’re going to have a big smile on your face because this is stuff that most. Most people have never done before. I have to admit I’ve gotten to do all of the things I just described many many many many many times. So what I was looking for is is there a better way? Am I going to learn a better way to do what I’ve been taught to do here? Then I’ve learned before, and in a couple of cases I did I learned a better. Better way to work around static cover. It was just more efficient and more effective than what I learned. Previously I learned a different way to draw that. I’m used to doing I I. Don’t know whether it was better, but it was different, and I found it to be very effective I learned two or three things, which were awesome and what I really appreciated about the class was the personal instruction. Instruction and the number of assistant instructors TJ had there, but also the pressure I appreciated the fact that the class put pressure on me and made me perform under pressure, because that’s when things began to fall apart so that’s the kind of training. You really really need so I. strongly advise if you can not take any other course or even if you can that, you put on the list of. Of courses that you take four your firearm particularly, if it’s a handgun in, you’re carrying it or you using it for home defence the to NRA courses which are the best for that, and those would be nra personal protection inside the home and NRA, personal protection outside the home I have now taken them both and I can tell you from personal experience. They are both extremely good courses and well. Well worth your time and money, and frankly they’re really inexpensive by comparison. You’re not gonNA, spend two or three grand taking these courses you can I mean really including a hotel stay and everything else and Ammo it probably cost me five or six hundred bucks I. You know I’d have to think about it, but probably around there and I did the reloading so I just loaded my own AMMO. it’s not a terribly expensive course to take I’m going to go take the instructor course now and I’ll report back to you maybe at the next podcast and let you know how that went, but I suspect that that’ll be a great course as well. You don’t necessarily need to do that unless you wanNA teach, but certainly go out there and get some training, and if you can get training, that simulates actual fighting and do it. It with an organization that you can trust to do it well, and certainly NRA falls into that category than I.

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Urge you to do that. You will find I’m sure an NRA instructors somewhere near you who certified to teach these courses remember they are personal protection inside the home and personal protection outside the home, and if you haven’t already completed them I, urge you to do so to say that they’re awesome would be the understatement. Understatement of the century. Well, I think I’ve just run myself completely out of time. have it I so if you’re on Patriot I, want you to stick with me. We’re going to get into the second part of the podcast. I’M GONNA. Explain to you why I think. We should not pay attention to the mainstream media and really look at things the way they want us to. Because they are completely and utterly wrong and I’M GONNA. GonNa tell you exactly how I know that and we’ll get into that the second part of the podcast, which is unpatriotic, only so if you’re on Patriot, stick with me if you’re listening to the podcast cash on favorite podcast player, or you’re watching the version on one of the video distribution points like Youtube. Thank you very much for everything you do have a wonderful week and wherever you go whatever you do, please be safe. You’ve been listening to the Gun Guy TV podcast.

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